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Postby halley » January 16th, 2011, 7:03 am

The Crimes of Christopher Columbus
Dinesh D'Souza (November 1995): 26-33.

"Columbus makes Hitler look like a juvenile delinquent," asserts American Indian activist Russell Means.
Winona LaDuke deplores "the biological, technological, and ecological invasion that began with Columbus' ill-fated voyage five hundred years ago."
The National Council of Churches declares the anniversary of Columbus "not a time for celebration" but for "reflection and repentance" in which whites must acknowledge a continuing history of "oppression, degradation, and genocide."
Historian Glenn Morris accuses Columbus of being "a murderer, a rapist, the architect of a policy of genocide that continues today."
"Could it be that the human calamity caused by the arrival of Columbus," African-American writer Ishmael Reed asks, "was a sort of dress rehearsal of what is to come as the ozone becomes more depleted, the earth warms, and the rain forests are destroyed?"
"All of us have been socialized to be racists and benefit from racism constantly," Christine Slater laments in the journal Multicultural Education. "The very locations on which our homes rest should rightfully belong to Indian nations." Literary scholar Stephen Greenblatt alleges that Columbus "inaugurated the greatest experiment in political, economic, and cultural cannibalism in the history of the Western world."
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Re: The Crimes of The American Injun

Postby specter » January 16th, 2011, 10:10 am

ALL injuns must acknowledge the crimes of the indians of the past, and recognize that NOTHING happens on earth except God ALLOWS it. It is up to the Inju to understand WHY God thought the Injun, as a people, were to have their land taken and their tribes DESTROYED.

“Your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, where they will be enslaved and oppressed four hundred years…. Then in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.


Like the Amorites, God saw the wickedness of the Injun and removed them and gave the Land to a nation HE chose.

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Re: The Crimes of the American Injun

Postby specter » January 16th, 2011, 10:25 am

Hally, you also need to REPENT! of either your LYING or your IGNORANCE.

You're implying that Dinesh D'Souza wrote those words. He did NOT! He is refuting the ignorance of those assertions.

Multiculturalism is based on the relativist assumption that since all cultures are inherently equal, differences of power, wealth, and achievement between them are most likely due to oppression. Sociologist Robert Blauner argues that these global disparities are replicated within the United States, so that blacks, American Indians, and nonwhite immigrations constitute a kind of Third World within the United States. Additionally, the African-American scholar Henry Louis Gates contends that a curriculum focused on the great works of Western civilization "represents the return of an order in which my people were the subjugated, the voiceless, the invisible, the unrepresented."


But all of this is wordplay. The real issue, as Leszek Kolakowski points out, is that "the impulse to explore has never been evenly distributed among the world's civilizations." It is no coincidence that it was Columbus who reached the Americas and not American Indians who arrived on the shores of Europe. The term "encounter" conceals this difference by implying civilizational contact on an equal plane between the Europeans and the Indians.
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Re: The Crimes of Christopher Columbus

Postby bossfan » January 16th, 2011, 10:29 am

specter:
ALL injuns must acknowledge the crimes of the indians of the past, and recognize that NOTHING happens on earth except God ALLOWS it. It is up to the Inju to understand WHY God thought the Injun, as a people, were to have their land taken and their tribes DESTROYED
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If Christians believe this line of crap, it is no wonder so many of them are living defeated, unvictorious lives.

God is not to blame for the Native American's plight.
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Re: The Crimes of Christopher Columbus

Postby davehines » January 16th, 2011, 10:35 am

halley wrote:"Columbus makes Hitler look like a juvenile delinquent," asserts American Indian activist Russell Means. Winona LaDuke deplores "the biological, technological, and ecological invasion that began with Columbus' ill-fated voyage five hundred years ago."


Yeah, he did some nasty things to the Arawaks. But it's pretty ridiculous to blame Columbus for the acts of many people acting in their own interests and for the glory of their governments. Nor for the introduction of diseases the Europeans didn't understand and had no way of knowing that the native Americans didn't have any resistance to them. Columbus was unaware of the work of Pasteur and Leeuwenhoek, they being born long after he was dead.

I rather like Russell Means, he being a fellow libertarian. But in this case his rhetoric is overblown. Nor does he say what Halley thinks he implies; Means once said that prefers to call himself an "American Indian" since it puts "American" first.

The National Council of Churches declares the anniversary of Columbus "not a time for celebration" but for "reflection and repentance" in which whites must acknowledge a continuing history of "oppression, degradation, and genocide."


How can I repent for the sins of another? I have no way of undoing what was done. One can only resolve to not repeat the errors. Instead, some on the left would repeat them, calling it "social justice". Halley posts this in the belief that since Columbus took stuff by force from the Arawaks a half millennium ago, she ought to take by force through government from white folks today -- whether or not they are Jewish (as Columbus was) or Genoese (as Columbus was) or Spanish (who Columbus worked for).

"Could it be that the human calamity caused by the arrival of Columbus," African-American writer Ishmael Reed asks, "was a sort of dress rehearsal of what is to come as the ozone becomes more depleted, the earth warms, and the rain forests are destroyed?"


Here we have an absurd melding of Columbus with the religion of anthropogenic global warming -- despite the evidence showing that the data on warming have been fudged.

"All of us have been socialized to be racists and benefit from racism constantly," Christine Slater laments in the journal Multicultural Education.


That she works for a magazine called "Multicultural Education" ought to provide a clue as to her agenda. Slater likely supports what Halley hates: amnesty.

"The very locations on which our homes rest should rightfully belong to Indian nations."


Well, yeah. But many of those former owners -- as much as 95% -- died of disease before white men ever came across them. Often there was nobody left to inherit any claim.

Literary scholar Stephen Greenblatt alleges that Columbus "inaugurated the greatest experiment in political, economic, and cultural cannibalism in the history of the Western world."


And Halley would continue the alleged cannibalism. She intends to bleed some races for the benefit of others; to consume the flesh of others to provide for her wheelchair and other amenities; to eat future generations to support Keynesianism today; etc.
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Re: The Crimes of the American Injun

Postby specter » January 16th, 2011, 10:35 am

The Fullness of their sins is the reason THEY were removed from the Land. The question is, will we, after aborting 50 MILLION of our own children suffer the same fate?

Here is how the Spaniards brought some measure of civilization to these primitives:

Similarly, when Bernal Diaz arrived in Mexico with the swashbuckling army of Hernan Cortes, he and his fellow Spaniards were not shocked to witness slavery, the subjection of women, or brutal treatment of war captives; these were familiar enough practices among the conquistadors. But they were appalled at the magnitude of cannibalism and human sacrifice. As Diaz describes it, in an account generally corroborated by modern scholars:

They strike open the wretched Indian's chest with flint knives and hastily tear out the palpitating heart which, with the blood, they present to the idols in whose name they have performed the sacrifice. Then they cut off the arms, thighs, and head, eating the arms and thighs at their ceremonial banquets. The head they hang up on a beam, and the body of the sacrificed man is not eaten but given to the beasts of prey.

When Cortes captured the Aztec emperor Montezuma and his attendants, he would only permit them temporary release on the promise that they stop their traditional practices of cannibalism and human sacrifice, but he found that "as soon as we turned our heads they would resume their old cruelties." Aztec cannibalism, writes anthropologist Marvin Harris, "was not a perfunctory tasting of ceremonial tidbits." Indeed the Aztecs on a regular basis consumed human flesh in a stew with peppers and tomatoes, and children were regarded as a particular delicacy. Cannibalism was prevalent among the Aztecs, Guarani, Iroquois, Caribs, and several other tribes.

THIS was the work of the God of Israel
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Re: The Crimes of Christopher Columbus

Postby davehines » January 16th, 2011, 10:42 am

bossfan wrote:God is not to blame for the Native American's plight.


Are you saying that God is not all-powerful? If He is, He could easily alter the course of history. If God chose to not interfere, one might certainly say He is "to blame".

Specter merely takes this idea and imputes a motive to God. I do not know that such imputation is accurate; God has not revealed to me the entirety of His thoughts and motives in such intricate detail.
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Re: The Crimes of Christopher Columbus

Postby bossfan » January 16th, 2011, 10:55 am

davehines wrote:
bossfan wrote:God is not to blame for the Native American's plight.


Are you saying that God is not all-powerful? If He is, He could easily alter the course of history. If God chose to not interfere, one might certainly say He is "to blame".

Specter merely takes this idea and imputes a motive to God. I do not know that such imputation is accurate; God has not revealed to me the entirety of His thoughts and motives in such intricate detail.


Based on what specter is suggesting, Gabby Giffords must have done something really, really bad for God to have ALLOWED her to be shot in the head, and that little nine year old girl must have done something far worse!

I'm not at all saying that God is not all-powerful. He is sovereign (supreme ruler; first in rank). But being all-powerful and sovereign does not mean that He is responsibile for everything that happens on earth.

God can still be all-powerful and sovereign without being responsible for a man who chooses to jump out of a window of a tall building to his death.

God is not as mysterious as many Christians make Him out to be.
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Re: The Crimes of the American Injun

Postby specter » January 16th, 2011, 11:00 am

This IS an EXCELLENT article (his always are). Too bad Halley isn't capable of gleaning his real message!

In short, the Indians were defeated and massacred because, by a cruel juxtaposition of history, they encountered, even in the persons of "semi-literate, implacable, and greedy swordsmen," a Spanish civilization that was superior both in the sophistication of its arms and its ideas. Even today, Vargas Llosa argues, the principles of the West continue to shape the modern world, and "the nations that reject those values are anachronisms condemned to various versions of despotism."
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Re: The Crimes of Christopher Columbus

Postby davehines » January 16th, 2011, 11:12 am

bossfan wrote:Based on what specter is suggesting, Gabby Giffords must have done something really, really bad for God to have ALLOWED her to be shot in the head, and that little nine year old girl must have done something far worse!

I'm not at all saying that God is not all-powerful. He is sovereign (supreme ruler; first in rank). But being all-powerful and sovereign does not mean that He is responsibile for everything that happens on earth.

God can still be all-powerful and sovereign without being responsible for a man who chooses to jump out of a window of a tall building to his death.


I make the point because I see a lot of people blaming everything they don't like on evil people, and justify what they like as God's will. One cannot have it both ways.

Kerwin says that if we have a dictator, that's the government God wants us to have, and we must not oppose him. If this fatalism is accurate, what point is there in taking any interest in politics? God will impose whatever government He will. It is pointless for Kerwin to promote enactment of Hebraic law by our government; if God wanted it so, it would be so.

Specter says God took the Indians' land because of their own sins. Yet he would find scapegoats for America's plight, in effect seeking to impute our sins upon others, who he says ought to be expelled from the country.

Some who claim they seek to follow God's will instead use God as a sort of talisman, justifying their own conceits as to who ought to be coerced by Godvernment, and how.
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Re: The Crimes of Christopher Columbus

Postby specter » January 16th, 2011, 11:25 am

Based on what specter is suggesting, Gabby Giffords must have done something really, really bad for God to have ALLOWED her to be shot in the head, and that little nine year old girl must have done something far worse!


THAT is absolute nonsense. That is NOT what I said. It shows a complete lack of understanding of the way the God of the BIBLE works.

We have REPEATED examples of the God of the Bible DESTROYING civilizations that become too corrupt. Show me FROM THE BIBLE where I am wrong and I will continue to "debate" the issue. My statements have NOTHING to do with a particular INDIVIDUAL. You forget Christ's statement when the tower fell and killed 18 people (I think) where He said, "Time and chance happen to all men."

But you want to ignore God's CLEAR warning that there ARE lines that CANNOT be crossed without bringing down Divine Judgement on any culture.

The Injuns crossed that line, PLUS God had determined to settle one of the Tribes of Israel (Joseph) in a Land to the West.

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Re: The Crimes of the American Injun

Postby davehines » January 16th, 2011, 11:34 am

Even today, Vargas Llosa argues, the principles of the West continue to shape the modern world, and "the nations that reject those values are anachronisms condemned to various versions of despotism."


Well, of course. Most civilizations throughout history were command economies. Rulers ran things for their own benefit. Despotism has been the usual practice of humans.

The concept of individual liberty has emerged at various times and in various places, but is typically submerged by the old command economy paradigm. Among the Greeks there arose some individual autonomy. This fell first to the archons of the city-states, then to conquerors. The Germanic tribes had a great recognition of individual liberty, leading to such works as the Magna Carta. Yet the tradition didn't stop the rise of Hitler.

The US is following the same path -- away from individual liberty and into command economy. The government is taking over health care, auto making, banking, etc. The Bill of Rights is regarded as merely a list of obsolete suggestions.

"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Responsibility means not blaming God; not finding scapegoats to blame for one's own shortcomings; putting forth the required effort to improve one's own situation; etc. People find these simple things too hard, and instead seek a Santa Claus who can solve their problems effortlessly.

Were other people's systems superior, they would have had a competitive edge against the European immigrants. To be fair, the native Americans' systems were disrupted by the spread of disease far and wide, ahead of the spread of white people. And technological advantage is not necessarily moral advantage; a guy with a Predator drone is not necessarily the moral superior of a guy with a spear.

Yet an attractive, workable economic/social system could compete against a less workable system -- barring coercion. In most places the natives were not conquered in one fell swoop. Their native systems had opportunity to prove themselves. Where they were conquered quickly there were often internal weaknesses, e.g., the conquest of the Aztecs, wherein the peoples the Aztecs had subjugated had reason to ally with the invaders.

But the sinking of the American system (as well as the European) into Keynesian command economy is proving itself not superior at all. Having abandoned what worked in favor of the ancient despotic paradigm, the cracks are showing.
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Re: The Crimes of Christopher Columbus

Postby bossfan » January 16th, 2011, 1:38 pm

specter:
We have REPEATED examples of the God of the Bible DESTROYING civilizations that become too corrupt. Show me FROM THE BIBLE where I am wrong and I will continue to "debate" the issue. My statements have NOTHING to do with a particular INDIVIDUAL. You forget Christ's statement when the tower fell and killed 18 people (I think) where He said, "Time and chance happen to all men."


Hmmm, okay then, so now you are stating that God is going to judge us collectively and not individually. So even though you and I oppose abortion because of our respect for the sanctity of life, we will be judged by God for the sins of America with respect to 50 million abortions and counting.

God is not the monster you are making Him out to be.
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Re: The Crimes of The American Injun

Postby halley » January 16th, 2011, 2:59 pm

specter wrote:ALL injuns must acknowledge the crimes of the indians of the past, and recognize that NOTHING happens on earth except God ALLOWS it. It is up to the Inju to understand WHY God thought the Injun, as a people, were to have their land taken and their tribes DESTROYED.
YOU SICK BASTARD.

“Your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, where they will be enslaved and oppressed four hundred years…. Then in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.

GOD WAS TALKING ABOUT THE JEW WHO WERE SLAUGHTER IN NAZI GERMANY AND STILL ON PALISTINIAN LAND. JEWS DON'T HAVE A LAND TO CALL THEIR OWN.
GOD HAVE ABANDONED THEM. MAL.

Like the Amorites, God saw the wickedness of the Injun and removed them and gave the Land to a nation HE chose.
GOD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EVIL OF WHITE MEN.
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Re: The Crimes of Christopher Columbus

Postby halley » January 16th, 2011, 3:13 pm

Christopher Columbus

Proverbs 12:10 A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast:
but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.
Christopher Columbus is commonly famous for his "discovery" of America. However, it must be said that if God-fearing Christians had "discovered" America, rather than a Roman Catholic, power-hungry, gold seeker; things would probably be different in South America and Mexico today.

Brother William P. Grady exposes Columbus for what he was in his book What Hath God Wrought! We find on pages 38-40:

"Although the name 'Columbus' is practically synonymous with motherhood and apple pie, the bloody aftermath of his maiden voyage is seldom discussed. Should we have expected less from an operation that was commissioned by Ferdinand and Isabella 12 years after they inaugurated the Spanish Inquisition at Seville? Following the establishment of colonies in San Salvador and Haiti, the inhuman behavior of these Catholic settlers would set a precedent for the conquistadors of the following century. It didn't take Columbus long to dump his original fund-raising spiel of 'converting Asia to Christianity' once he was able to size up the easy pickings. Only two days after his historic landing, the gold-hungry, soon-to-be-dubbed 'Admiral of the Ocean' struck an ominous note in his journal. 'These people are very unskilled in arms...with fifty men they could all be subjected and made to do all that one wished.' In their quest for earthly riches, Isabella's 'soldiers of the cross' placed an entire civilization under tribute! No less of an authority than the esteemed biographer of Columbus, Samuel Eliot Morrison, confirmed the grim statistics:

'Those who fled to the mountains were hunted with hounds, and of those who escaped, starvation and disease took toll, whilst thousands of the poor creatures in desperation took cassava poison to end their miseries. So the policy and acts of Columbus
LIKE THE POLICIES AND ACT OF AMERICA
for which he alone was responsible began the depopulation of the terrestrial paradise that was Hispaniola in 1492. Of the original natives, estimated by a modern ethnologist at 300,000 in number, one third were killed off between 1494 and 1496. By 1508 an enumeration showed only 60,000 alive. Four years later that number was reduced by two thirds; and in 1548 Oviedo doubted whether 500 Indians remained.

"Columbus was eventually relieved of his governorship and returned to Spain as a common criminal. The deluded explorer wrote a friend, 'At a time when I was entitled to expect repiano coversds and retirement, I was incontinently arrested and sent home loaded with chains.'

"While in New Mexico on a preaching trip, I visited the Taos Pueblo Reservation and happened onto a testimonial to the enduring infamy of the 'Admiral's'atrocities. A 'Wanted' poster sported the explorer's bust with an arrow sticking out of his head. The poster was worded:

WANTED:

CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS
GRAND THEFT, GENOCIDE, RACISM
INITIATING THE DESTRUCTION OF A CULTURE
RAPE, TORTURE, AND MAIMING OF
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE AND INSTIGATOR OF THE BIG LIE
500 YEARS OF TOURISM
A NATIVE AMERICAN PERSPECTIVE

STEAL THIS POSTER--YOU'VE STOLEN EVERYTHING ELSE


"The citizens of Europe would pay a high price for the evil of Columbus and company. In fulfillment of James 1:15b which states, 'Sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.' Morrison adds a sober postscript:

'Evidence that syphilis existed in a mild endemic form among the American Indians before 1492 is abundant. No certain evidence of syphilis in Europe exists before 1494, although certain medical historians assert the contrary. In any case, the disease appeared in a most virulent form in Italy in 1494, and spread rapidly. By 1520 it was generally believed in Europe that syphilis came from America.
SHOUILD NOT HAVE BEEN f--- THE INDIANS.
"

The contamination was so widespread the historians have sardonically referred to this period as 'the syphilization of Europe...' "

And lest any doubts remain about Columbus' "good" character, we find on page 41 of the same book that the objective of the endeavour, according to pope Alexander VI was, " 'to bring the inhabitants..to profess the Catholic Faith...' " We also find the pope calling Columbus " '..our well-beloved Son Christopher Columbus (a man certes well commended as most worthy and apt for so great a matter)...' " You may be assured that he was in good standing with the Unholy Father in Rome to earn such praise from the pope in those days of persecution of "heretics."
Considering the facts about the "great" Columbus and his "boon" of blood money and disease that he left Europe, we can only conclude, ...be sure your sin will find you out. Numbers 32:23

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More information on Columbus:

Despite the above information, there may still be those that refuse to see Columbus as he really is. Here we provide some more information to emphasize the fact that he could not have been a Christian as so many ill-informed people will try to tell us.

Columbus only had two sons. One was a the product of his fornication with a certain woman of Genoa, Beatrice de Haran, who was his mistress. He would not marry her probably because she was a commoner which might interfere with his ambition to climb into the aristocratic class.

Italian Americans tried to have Columbus sainted by the Catholic Church, but it was refused because of this.



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