Crude Oil Price $8-$12 a barrel using water as Friend

[Woodrow Riley]

Seems an inventor had a "flash of an idea" and has developed a "low tech" machine that
converts anything with carbon atoms into useable oil by "treating water as its friend".
http://www.mindfully.org/Energy/2003/Anything-Into-Oil1may03.htm
Amazing what one thinking Kirk Unit person can accomplish eh?
Presently there is a plant in Philadelphia processing Missouri turkey waste
into fuel but according to the article all kinds of stuff can be processed.
U.S. imports 4.2 billion barrels of oil imports annually (according to the article)
and these machines could generate 4 billion barrels from all United States waste.
We're saved. We can grow our way out of the energy shortage now, especially
since you can already make fuel legally in your garage:
http://www.diyfuel.com/. Just run down and contract the hospital for
all their liposuctioned FAT & start your own home business.

"The potential is unbelievable," says Michael Roberts, a senior chemical engineer
for the Gas Technology Institute, an energy research group. "You're not only
cleaning up waste; you're talking about distributed generation of oil
all over the world."

Many scientists have tried to convert organic solids to liquid fuel using waste products before,
but their efforts have been notoriously inefficient.

...Baskis, a microbiologist and inventor who lives in Rantoul, Illinois... late 1980s...
says he "had a flash" of insight about how to improve the basic ideas...

the apparatus, which looks surprisingly low tech: a tangle of
pressure vessels, pipes, valves, and heat exchangers terminating in storage tanks.

He raps on its side. "The chief difference in our process is that
we make water a friend rather than an enemy," he says.

Summary?:
Single inventor succeeds when all the Humpty Dumpty's corporate scientists failed,
makes a cheap low tech device because his attitude toward WATER was for it to be his FRIEND.
Wow! What a NEW CONCEPT since the PLANET IS COVERED WITH WATER.
http://www.newpath4.com/icyhot4.htm & http://www.newpath4.com/icyhot7.htm
Imagine that. ONE SINGLE INVENTOR -ALONE- SAVING THE WORLD.
Perhaps someone should write that guy and explain to him that
flashes of ideas don't work out here in the REAL WORLD.
http://free.seekon.com/CarSizeSteamEngine/ & http://free.seekon.com/Strongheart10/
I would like to point out that this engine is producing more energy
than it is using, 85% output versus 15% input for the turkey waste,
by harnessing the pre-existing energy already used to raise the turkeys.

This independent inventor completed the circle...
http://www.newpath4.com/Riley360DegreeBusinessModelPeopleModelLifeModelSmoothSailingModel.gif

[Woodrow Riley]

http://www.newpath4.com/Lone%20Inventor%20Saves%20World%20from%20OPEC%20Crude%20Oil%20Squeeze.gif

[Jerry]

Presently there is a plant in Philadelphia processing Missouri turkey waste
into fuel but according to the article all kinds of stuff can be processed.

At a cost equivalent FAR higher than oil!

[Woodrow Riley]

Think so? There's a slight diff tho. The monies spent here
stay here instead of a flood over to OPEC. Don't you think that matters?
Making American oil sheiks rich instead of Arabian sheiks?
At least Americans should be paying taxes...

[Jerry]

So paying $6/gallon for gas is better than $3/gallon? Remember, only a small percentage of the cost of oil goes for crude. Taxes are the biggest, along with refining.

At $60/barrel the cost of crude is $1.42/gallon. When crude was $30/barrel the "sheiks" (as you call them) got $0.71/gallon.

But remember.... when crude goes up, the North Sea, the Alaskan and the American crude goes with it, thereby making American's rish (and we have vested interest in South American, Canadian and elsewhere overseas, deap sea and on land). OPEC winds up with much less than you are guessing - the increase from severly low to severely high made them only $.70 more per gallon. And they get a portion, not all of our crude demand.

Your $6/gallon (but spent at home) is recession material and counter productive to a thriving economy. But you are known to be a shallow thinker anyhow, so I expect that from you.

[Woodrow Riley]

Considering that this new technology alters our landfill situation,
seems like we still come out ahead... possibly breaking even.
Since our oil would be HERE instead of OVER THERE,
be less need to send troops OVER THERE.
Still shallow thinking? Troops here protecting here?
Save $200 billion or more?
Saving lives?
Still too shallow for you?
Tell me more about YOUR great plan then,
I'd like to hear it. I'm sure any other readers
on here would like to here something substantial.

....

[Jerry]

Since our oil would be HERE instead of OVER THERE,
be less need to send troops OVER THERE.

despite Indymedia propaganda to the contrary, we do not send troops to collect oil. While Iraq and Bush are perhaps an exception, that is Bush's fault not American industry or inventiveness ideals talking.

Look at all the conflicts from WW1 forward...all the conflicts including Vietnam and Clinton's.... no oil involved - troops dying overseas.

I am not ready to propose a paradigm shift in creativeness and inventions. I just know yours are failures and your concepts sheep fodder.

[T.J.]

is there anyone you DO LIKE, Jerry?

[Jerry]

is there anyone you DO LIKE, Jerry?

most everyone. just a few here are "stupid magnets"

[Soforth]

Take heart Woodrow, at least dr. death has got off of "moron" and has graduated to "stupid magnets" even though he has no alternative plan.

[Woodrow Riley]

Thanks Soforth. Jerry's like the little kid with his finger stuck in the dike,
Hoping upon hope the status quo & the struggle for energy continues.
Apparently it gives great meaning to his life.
Obviously I'm not the only one out here
thinking of ways to construct closed systems.
The reclamation of crude oil molecules from garbage is
a great advance because all the oil we drill to the surface
becomes a part of us, a part of all life & environment.
It's the future and Jerry is the 1974 Past.
If I was him, having his attitude, I'd be screaming like a stuck pig also.
The world of scientific advancements is leaving him in the dust.
I applaud all the advances not just my own.
Jerry just flops around like a fish screaming for water.
One day we may call this renaissance the Age of Regeneratives;
regenerative power, flashlights, car engines. Getting oil back from
garbage is icing on the cake. It means Mankind will always have what it
has now, especially since the advent of biodiesel we can grow and make more lubricants.
Several weeks ago I read where there's now a way to make plastics from plants.
I believe I posted the link on here somewhere but Jerry keeps
burying my posts to keep you guys from seeing them.
Not much I can do about that. It just seems to flick his bic.
If I was the Editor of this board I'd strongly consider cutting
some of this mess out. Wasting space, calling people names,
all it is is spam. Blog spam, total waste of space.

[Woodrow Riley]

Besides, it doesn't much matter whether I "like" Jerry or he "likes" me.
I didn't come on here to find friends as I don't think blogging
to be a friend finding medium. I just came here to tell not sell myself.
Jerry seems to think I want people to flock around me.
I never said that, I never intended that, and besides
even if I did want it it wouldn't happen.
hahahaha No one flocks to anyone anymore.
It's the Past and no one lives there (except Jerry living in his Hugh Hefner mental cubicle.)

[Jerry]

woody said:

The world of scientific advancements is leaving him in the dust.

Woody - I use more high technology scientific equipment every hour than you have used in your lifetime to date. The rest of your rant is an ad hominem and wrong and ignored

[Woodrow Riley]

No doubt Jerry. Are you going on Public Record
that quantity always trumps quality?

[Jerry]

No doubt Jerry. Are you going on Public Record
that quantity always trumps quality?

no, intelligence outfoxes stupidity


checkmate